RAK 4631 +Rak 12500(gps) on RAK19003 energy hungry :)

i put together 2 sets of newest models:
Rak4631 and the fitting GPS12500 on a RAK19003 Base.
togehter in nice small boxes, waterproof with internal antennas.
everyting is working fine on Meshtastix version 2.012XXX
except battery runtime:
without the GPS (reoved the module) , they consume about 2-6mA (when not sending) this would be fine. but when GPS is attached it is about 40–60mA higher constantly (when not sending).
this is much more than expected and too high for the intended use as a very small- long(1week)lasting GPS-device.

i tried to change the GPS settings in android-app (gps-disabled, different time vaules) but othing changed the 50mA going into the deivce…

is there a command /Way to fully disable and re-enable the RAK-GPS so it does not consume power?
or to put it in sleep-mode when not moving for some time ?

Yes, using GPS increases the power consumption pretty significantly. We actually have a pinned comment in our #solar-power channel in Discord with some comparisons. RAK19003/RAK4631 without GPS ranged from 5-7 mA at 5v. With GPS it ranged from 50-54mA at 5v.

There is a “soft off” function for the device but it was just discovered this morning that it was not turning off the rail that supplies power to the the slots on the rak baseboards so it was not lowering power usage when a GPS device was connected. An update is currently being tested to ensure that solves the issue so hopefully we’ll see that in the Alpha/Beta releases soon. As for specifically the GPS module, I’m not sure that there’s a command for that. Even disabling GPS is going to still draw power.

thank you for the answer.
yes +50mA that is what i also measured at ~4V
is there a difference , if i use Rak19007 board? (i expect not)

No, 19007 will behave the same.

anyone knows? :
does a 19007 board with 4631 and a RAK1910 GPS use less power?? than RAK12500?

this GPS is described as “low Power” on RAK Webpage.

Does Anyone know the Energy-Draw of a 19007 board with 4631 and a RAK1910 GPS ??? (with meshtastic firmware )

Interesting. There’s nothing on the RAK12500 data sheet about power consumption whereas the RAK1910 has that listed as “15 uA to 22 mA”. The testing that was pinned in the #solar-power discord channel shows it was done with at 19003/12500 combination. You could estimate using the data in the data sheets. You also might be able to ask someone in the discord to test the consumption for you.


Oh nice, for the 12500 it says Operating Current: < 15 µA :slight_smile: so with the right firmware update maybe it will be ok soon :slight_smile:

Ahh. It’s in the product overview. I imagine that value is at idle, considering how low it is. I’m not sure what you mean by this:

so with the right firmware update maybe it will be ok soon

I mean it’s fine now. Adding GPS, no matter which device, will add additional power usage.
Here you can see the added power consumption with GPS and other variables.

Newer GPS chips generally use less power as this is Apple / Google’s primary demand of GPS makers, so it is unlikely that the 1910 saves any power over the newer NEO 8M model, the 1910 is also EOL. GPS generally uses about 50ma.

ok, thank you for that table !
i measured around the same mA here.

if the 12500 uses <1mA in idle, i expect that it can be put to sleep by software when there are no position data needed. i meant that probably some future meshtatic version will hopefully be able to put the gps to idle/sleep when not needing position data… /like gps update every 180 seconds (or longer)… so 160 seconds idle possible…?

You can currently set the position frequency in the software, but the gps module is always powered. While at idle it’ll use less power of course and then increase when it’s attempting to lock and get position. There is currently a feature request open to turn the module off entirely, and there was mention of trying to configure it where you can set an interval for it to turn back on get data and then turn back off. You can review that discussion here.

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It should be noted that this turns off all modules on that rail so this is probably not a very good solution for handsets.


Super deep sleep (either on NRF52 or ESP32) has not been a great fit for meshtastic generally. It really only works for use cases where there is sustained periods of no network activity. So it works if there is a mountain top node that can not communicate with a base station as it will wake up if a portable node winds up in-between those two nodes, but that is not how most people set up their network. This functionality is how a lot of commercial LoRaWAN devices work (you gas meter wakes up once a day and sends its reading at a specific time and then goes to sleep until the next day) but Meshtastic is much more random.

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About the same. I just measured mine with 1910 GPS at 40ma (5v.)

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thanx, so i wont have to order a 1910 :slight_smile: