Announcement: M.2/Mini-PCIe board compatible with RAK4631 Meshtastic firmware variant

Guys, I’m now working on the ultimate RAK4631 compatible board.
For now, I plan to produce two versions of this board for each form factor.
Base: RAK4630 with external hardware watchdog, connected via USB bus to the host. It’s just RAK4631 inside your PC/Laptop/Router/Raspberry PI.
Ultimate: RAK4630, hardware watchdog, BME250, GPS with Dead reckoning (position without satellites), and LAN connected via ethernet-USB to your host. It must be a pretty universal device! It’s can be used as a gateway, assets tracking device, and of course just a repeater/or telegram gateway.

What do you think about this?

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So a lora board that fits in a Laptop? Like instead of the 4G modem in my Lenovo L14?

Yes, it must fit all laptops with a WWAN/3G/4G/LTE slot.
But some vendors may restrict the usage of third-party modules. You need to check it first.
For example, as I know you can’t insert third-party modules into ThinkPads without BIOS/EFI modification.

Would that work? ThinkPad mobile Internet - ArchWiki

Because such a card would sound interesting and I have the 4G Module in my L14 and haven’t used it yet. So to swap that for a way to communicate to Meshtastic nodes without having one next to the laptop sounds great

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Wow The modem will take a significantly longer time to appear on the USB bus and the firmware will “miss” the modem at boot time.
We got a chance, I have T460 in my home and I can test how it really works for RAK MCU and LAN7850 chip. Of course when I got M.2 module in hardware.

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Nice, looking forward to seeing that. Keep us posted.



The design of the M.2 version is almost done.

P.S. IO header by default is not soldered, to fit the card in laptop clearance.

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Our “RnD team” finished with the board and circuit design.
We replaced some IC in the Watchdog circuit and Power Delay module.
So for now we got a startup delay of about 3s (thanks @roland for the suggestion) for bypassing (I hope) the vendor’s hardware validation. Also, the watchdog reset the RAK if we don’t have led blinking about 25s, and we now have much time for Meshtastic boot or to bring the device to DFU mode.

I already start ordering hardware components to bring to life the basic version of the M.2 board.
If all goes fine with testing the basic design, we switch over to producing and testing the Ultimate version of this bad boy. And only after that, we should try to fit this design into the Mini-PCIe board.

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Sweet, how would we address this (when used in a Lenovo) from Linux?

E.g. how can we hack our ATAK Server to use this module to push COT Data out over Meshtastic?

It must be exposed to the host system as:

  • serial - /dev/ttyACMn as regular nRF52 device like T-Echo or RAK4631
  • ethernet card (only in the Ultimate version)

You may communicate with this board as you do it with any Meshtastic device connected to the network: Serial, Web, MQTT

I’m not using ATAK and don’t know how it interoperates with Meshtastic nodes.

Serial tty should probably be okay. Haven’t really tried any of the ATAK Stuff myself. I’m still in the planning and analysis phase in order to figure out what exactly I want/meed to setup, from clients to servers and routing nodes/trackers in between.

What frequency LoRa are you using? Here in europe 443 and 868 are legal, but from what I read (on here) 868 seems to be superior (and would match my t-beams - that I still haven’t really tried since I got them :wink:)

I plan to produce the first bath with RAK4630-H chips, it supports all 868-915Mhz bands.
If you need devices with RAK4630-L chips (more than 5) I can order these MCUs. But keep in brain, the antenna in your laptop must be incompatible with this frequency range.

Well shit, I didn’t think of the antenna yet.

I’m talking about the 433 Mhz range =) with 868-915, it works fine, I’ve tested it with my old ThinkPad X201, embedded antenna works like a standard 3dbi antenna included in T-Beam.

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Phew, dodged a bullet there :wink:
I’m not that interested in swapping antennas in a new laptop :wink:

Any updates on the module yet?

I’ve been waiting for all parts to arrive at the factory, today I ordered build of a test batch of the Light version of M.2 board.

Sweet. Keep us posted. I could test In my Lenovo L14 when it’s ready.

Today factory started production of our test batch of M.2 cards, If all goes fine with SMT I hope I will get this batch in the second week of march and start testing these boards with my home Lenovo laptops.

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Yesterday I finally received the test batch of the Light version of M.2 boards.

After sanity tests, I discovered issues with the Reset-delay circuit:

  1. It’s not working, looks like something wrong with the capacitor/resistor
  2. I do some tests in my Lenovo T440s, and discovered startup delay for 3s must not work to bypass UEFI checks. Because my laptop booting to an unknown device message about 25s.

    delay_scheme

Also, I found issues with wiring the USB2412 hub, looks like we got incorrect wiring of OCS_N1 and OCS_N2, now it’s attached to the ground, but in our case, it must be just not connected.


Also as you see, JLCPCB ordered the incorrect RAK module with an IPEX connector, It’s fine for tests, but can’t go to production. I tried to reorder the correct RAK4630 variant via JLCPCB but got the minimal quote from RAKWireless for 458 units, it must cost about 8K EUR, so it’s mean I can’t continue with RAK4630 without any investor or crowdfunding…


Or just forgot about the usage RAKWireless board, and repeat RAK4630 on the M.2 board.
Pros of this option:

  • This project does not depend of RAKs modules anymore
  • Less physical footprint

Cons:

  • Need certificate for these modules himself
  • Probably need to upload the bootloader to the board before it comes to end-users.
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